Wow! Let a brotha on a couple of cable news shows as the anti-Sharpton pundit after the Imus incident and all of the sudden he's the resident expert on Hip-Hop culture. He missed the boat completely on this. Dog fighting has been a sick and disgusting sport for a long, long time and there is absolutely no correlation between it and rap, prison or Hip-Hop. I am no football fan but I do know enough to know that Michael Vick is bad news at many levels. You cannot blame this madness on Hip-Hop, football, testosterone or anything else than a sick and
sadistic mind. Honestly, I don’t wish jail on the people who despise me the most. Incarceration is that dehumanizing.
So forgive me for lacking passion about the guilt, innocence and/or punishment of one-time franchise quarterback Michael Vick for his alleged involvement in a dogfighting ring. Hell — given that the state, if inclined, can make a blind witness’ vision 20/20 — I’m even willing to give Vick his presumption of innocence.
Why not? He is an American citizen, last I checked, and we don’t need to look any further than Duke lacrosse to see what can happen to a prosecutor when the media spotlight descends on a criminal case.
Nope. My desire is to see Vick evolve as a human being and for his troubles to serve as yet another wake-up call for black athletes to reject the hip-hop/prison culture that glorifies much of the negative behavior and attitude that has eroded the once-dignified and positive reputation of African-American athletes.
As much as I love dogs — and I really do have an affinity for them — this case primarily repulses me because I believe Vick got involved with breeding vicious pit bulls because rap-music culture made it the cool thing to do.
The thing that bugged me the most about this is not Michael Vick. I don't know him. What got me is that on one of my discussion lists, men - college educated, community service driven, otherwise upstanding guys - came rushing to his defense like he was being lynched.
Sorry, while I may believe that folks love to prosecute black men with a lot of money - or black men in general, Vick is sick if he is in anyway guilty of what is outlined in the indictment. I don't care how old the "sport" is, how many white folks do it or how crazy people think PETA folks are, anyone who participates in activities like this is not quite human. I ended up in a day long battle with someone because I suggested that anyone who would abuse dogs, would abuse humans. I joked with this list member that I'd probably see him on TV as someone who shot the wife, the kids and himself. I was being facetious but that sent this dude into a tirade - no matter that others had mentioned the correlation between animal abusers and serial killers.
In any case, I was rather disturbed by the lack of logic and the defense of Vick and this "sport." It was disappointing and it was sad because only one guy actually called them out as wrong. (All of the women, of course, were appalled by the responses). Look at this! ad hominem attacks with false logic, clueless comparisons to hunting and killing animals for food, race baiting and name calling ... Sheesh!
"White folks and you adapted Negroes kill me worrying bout DOG FIGHTING! What about boxing? That causes brain damage... and wrestling? and UFC? But y'all ain't squawking bout that.
If you come at me with CRUELTY to animals... I rebut with look at the street of Dc, NYC, Philly where MILLIONS of people are HOMELESS, HEALTH CARELESS, JOBLESS, and HOPELESS!!
FAWK A DOG FIGHT... ya care more bout a animal more than you care for humans?"
"You know what. I agree with you 100% and 100% more. This is nothing more than rhetoric by white folks to take down Vick. So what he fights dogs, hell so do I. I fight dogs chickens and raccoons. If you have ever been hunting and seen a raccoon fight your dogs when he has been shot then you know what I am talking about. I challenge anyone who says it is cruelty to animals to then show me that they do not eat meat, eat eggs drink milk or eat fish. I hate when people act like fish is not meat. So what two dogs fight, is that any different than two gangs fighting or two clicks fighting. I do not see PETA or anyone else going out to the Gang-members and offering them a chance at rehabilitation or saying , "it was the guys who jumped you in that made you the way you are...let's rehab you instead of putting you in jail.""
"If you live in Texas Deer hunting is a big thing here. Nobody fighting for deer rights why is that. Can somebody answer that. Cuz every white Texan does it and a lot of black ones too. Folks here kill deer, quail, possum, squirrel, rabbit. What would happen if you shoot a dog or cat? Whats the difference?"
"There are folks who eat dogs and cats ..."
"I used to fight dogs and cocks. I have a motorcycle. I drink and cuss ... I can actually place you into the life of a dog-fighter and I can tell you personally I love dogs. It is not about hate for the dog, it is not about being abusive to a woman. It is the actually love for your dog and the instant/fleeting pride that you have when you say "my dog can beat your dog". [Qusan sticking her head out of the computer: Now ain't that some dick isht?] The putting to sleep of an injured dog is no different than putting down a horse from racing. I also notice the same people crying about Vick and others dog fighting have no problem with a grown ass man jumping on the back of horse and riding the shit out of him. The two are no different. "
Like I said, I was a little more upset by the rebuttals than I was the thought of what Vick supposedly did to those dogs and, back to the point, none of these guys could be accused of being immersed in Hip-Hop culture. Jason Whitlock is off base and so are too many men I know in cyberspace.
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